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Consistency Investable Attribute (R+ R- Dc)

My alternative is quite feasible: consistency of frequency, trading hours and assets. :wink:

Behaviour section is a sort of fingerprint of your strategy, THAT has to be consistent!

With the current state of things I measure the consistency of a trader more from Rs and La scores.

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I like your suggestion, but maybe this further illustrates the above mentioned “algo-centrism”: the Darwinex-algos would understand your criteria, but they prefer time and number of pips because those are easier to translate into risk management and allow much closer tracking of risk. Consider time: it allows the RM to estimate, as you open your trade, how long you will be exposed with the given leverage. Remove this and an important part of the VaR calculation falls away.

Could it be that we can only move towards more open ways of evaluating strategies by moving away from the rigid standardization of risk, where the RM would no longer lever up but would only cut risk from a certain threshold upwards?

I like the current Risk Stability score and the current risk manager, but consistency is somenthing different, it has to state if I am running the same strategy.
Consistency of risk is already well covered by Rs.

If I trade 15 pips in the morning can it be the same strategy than trading 15 pips at night?
If I trade 5 times per month and than I start to trade 50 times per month can it be the same strategy, is that consistent?
NO there is no consistency in pasting together different styles, even if VAR and risk stays the same.

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Nothing to add to that :slight_smile:

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I appreciate that timing and consistency have a lower weight for DScore, but it doesn’t change the fact that the logic is flawed, timing would be difficult to improve, I don’t have alternatives, but consistency… is simply not stating consistency. :smiley:

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Do you want to rate the consistency of a trader and learn if he is trading in a stable way following the same rules?

These are the numbers to track:

They just have to track them with a monthly channel like now they are tracking VaR.

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What about range trader for example. If risk awerse trader, he or she will stay away in trending markets and trade fully in ranging market. So obviously there will be lack of consistency regards number of trades.

As market changes so does consistency to some degree.

So another example, one is trading certain levels only. Trader can be very consistent with executing the strategy, but he won’t be consistent with duration of the trade, time of execution (morning, midday, night) as also regards pips.

We can simplify consistency as it is now, wich can give some valuable insight, we can also add some new calculations (again it will be another simplified version) but it will never show the whole picture.

My favorite consistency to watch is actually LA + daily drawdowns especially for daytrading style. How is trader managing situation when things are not so rosy.

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My KVL is a mean reverting swing trading strategy and trades all the day, trading all the day is consistent.
European Session percentage is 50% on 1y , 6m and 3m , so trading routine is consistent.

KDU is a night scalper with 0% in European session, always 0% on all timeframes,
also that is consistent.

Going from night scalping to swing trading would mean changing strategy and that would be unconsistent.

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Agree, and this is the main flaw of the current consistency, it focuses on single trades and it is useless to identify the kind of strategy and ruleset.
With my idea numbers tracked are not related to single trades but are calculated from tens/hundreds of trades.
Even if duration of single trades may change a lot, the average duration will change only if you completely change your strategy.

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@JesusDarwinex

Any news about consistency?

  • Diagrams are still very slow.
  • History/chart of R+ R- is often very noisy for the live part (after april).
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Morning @CavaliereVerde

Let me check the speed issue with our engineers.

Could you please be more specific about it?

FYI, a bubble in R+/R- represent a position in the same asset in the same direction (long or short)

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It happens also with many other darwins.

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@CavaliereVerde

I´ve been checking this post-reloaded noise you highlighted.

First of all, let me assure you that we have not modified anything with regards to our R+/R IA algo.

However, we´ve altered the way we calculate these grades (we do it with deltas now). This might be one of the reasons causing this “ugly” oscillations in the chart.

We´ll take a look at this but we don´t consider this a priority at the moment.

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I agree that it isn’t so importat but it reflects some complaints I did during the first days of Reloaded.
Scores were changing even by 2 points from morning to afternoon.

IMO the calculation is right but it needs to be smoothed/averaged to behave like the backtested region.

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@JesusDarwinex
I think this should be the goal of Consistency scores.
We know that the weight these scores is low but if we want to penalize people pasting strategies together we need something that tracks a consistent behaviour, not durations or returns of single trades…

Hi @CavaliereVerde!

The weight of R+, R- and Dc are not that low. You know that I cannot disclose more info about how the D-score is calculated but trust me when I say that the weight of those 3 is not that insignificant.

R+, R- and Dc does not take into consideration individual trades but positions opened in the same asset & same direction.

We are all ears to hear your suggestions on how to improve these or any other IAs. I cannot promise you anything but I guarantee that your voice will be heard. (This goes for anyone in our Community)

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And that’s why you guys are the best!!! :+1:t4:

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R+ is very low now. But R- & Dc weight even more La

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Yes I know, but moving the algo from trades to positions isn’t solving problems with a simple trailing stop.
Honestly… do you think consistency scores are rating a stable ruelset?

The problems with trailing stop have been solved minimazing the weight of R+

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